Ladies
and gentlemen, Exploders and rockers all over the planet,
I bet you could never guess what we of The Rock Explosion
headquarters have found in the Easter Egg, and since
we all are very proud of this surprise, and since we're
ready to bet you will find this interview as one of
the most bursting we've ever done, we have the honour
to introduce you one of the founders of such a band
named
New York Dolls. Please join your hands for
Mr. Rick Rivets, a piece of history in the New York
rock scene, and not just this
Check it out!
Hi Mr.Rivets could you introduce
yourself to the new generations addicted to MTV shitty
music? You were a founder member of a band that changed
the course of music history. Why don't tell us in detailes
how, when and where did you meet the other members?
Me and Arthur Kane went to High School together and
we had a band called The Fogg that also included Stu
Wylder from the Corpse Grinders. After we graduated
we played the strip club circut in New York City, and
on the side were trying to put together a band that
had similar likes as we had. Our drummer was Sparkey
Donovan, who was the drummer in The Brats but that's
later on. We had seen Johnny all the time at various
clubs and would always say hi to each other, but we
didn't really know him or if he played anything. One
night me and Arthur were trying to steal this motorcycle
and had it in my van when we saw Johnny walking down
Bleeker Street. Being completely drunk Arthur said:
"Hey! There's that guy we always see!", so
Arthur got out of the van and went up to Johnny. I think
he thought we were gonna mug him because we pulled too
a fast stop and jumped out of the van, but Arthur ran
up to him and said: "Hey man, do you play anything?"
After Johnny was assured we weren't gonna rob him, we
started talking and he said he played bass. Well, Arthur
played guitar in all our other bands so we said: "Why
don't we get together and jam sometime?". Well
it turns out that he lived around the corner from Arthur's
on 1st avenue, between 9th and 10th street. The next
day we got together and played for a bit and decided
to get a band together. Johnny had a friend, Ozzie,
that played drums so we went into the studio and jammed,
doing mostly Rolling Stones and Chuck Berry songs. Johnny
had a hard time playing the bass, as he was quite small,
so he asked Arthur if he wouldn't mind changing from
guitar to bass. It was O.K. with Arthur, so the band
consisted of me Arthur, Johnny and Ozzie. Ozzie wasn't
the best drummer so we got ahold of Billy who Johnny
had played with before, and started rehearsing at a
studio on 31st street. The place was in the middle of
the garment center and was always crowded, so we had
to find a place that was cheaper and not in such a crowded
neighborhood. I don't know who found the place, either
Arthur or Johnny, but we soon had a place on 81st street
and Columbus Avenue that was a bike rental place in
the day and a "studio" at night.
Mr. Rivets can you describe the
early New York Dolls with Johnny Thunders (vocals/guitar),
Arthur Kane (bass), and Billy Murcia (drums). Particularly
we're interested in your memories about the all-night
rehearsal on October 10 1971, which became "Dawn
Of The Dolls". It's true that Johnny Thunders first
alias was Johnny Volume?
Well, now that we had a place to practice, we got down
to learning a bunch of songs. At first we were doing
only covers, but one day Johnny said that he had some
songs he wrote and wanted us to work on them too. That
was cool with us, because playing covers was a dead
end street. At first we used to go over to Johnny's
place and work up the songs on acoustic guitars before
going to the studio and plugging in. This worked out
great, because you could see that if the songs sounded
good with a couple of acoustic guitars, well, they would
sound even better when we plugged in. Now this studio
didn't have any equipment per say. They had 2 guitar
amps and a set of drums. Me and Arthur used to plug
into one of the amps and Johnny would plug into the
other and have the vocals coming out of the secong channel.
This didn't make for the best quality but when you have
nothing else then you can't complain but just make the
best of it. A few weeks before someone broke into Arthur's
apartment and had stolen our guitars and amps, so we
were basically without any equipment. I borrowed $300
from a friend and went to the pawn shops and picked
up a 1961 Fender Stratocaster and a 1965 Rickenbacker
which me and Johnny would take turns using, as all Johnny
had was the bass that Arthur was using. The guy that
owned the place didn't trust anyone so he would lock
us in the studio and come back in 3 hours or so and
let us out after collecting the money for that nights
time. The place was really just a damp basement that
had a portable heater but during the winter we would
keep warm by drinking bottles of cheap Vodka that we
would buy before we were locked in. It used to get really
cold inside but between the Vodka and the energy that
we would create playing we always kept pretty warm.
Ever since The Fogg I got into this habit of bringing
a tape recorder to practice and recording the band and
listening to the tapes later to see how much progress
we were making. Well it was no different in this situation
and the fact that I had just "borrowed" a
cassette recorder and a couple of mikes made it easy
to carry it down to the studio and record the night
sessions. Years later one of these tapes was released
as "Dawn Of The Dolls" just because we had
gotten tired of making copies of this tape for friends
who were always asking for copies when they learned
I had an early tape of New York Dolls. Another tape
that was recorded when David joined the band was made
but the tape was never seen again after loaning it to
David. One good reason for never loaning tapes to anyone.
We didn't know Johnnys last name, and when we asked
him one day, he came up with Thunders. He might have
called himself Johnny Volume for a day or so buit it
was always Thunders as far as we were concerned.
Why did you decide to leave New
York Dolls, or maybe it wasn't exactly your decision?
After playing together for a few months Johnny had come
to the conclusion that he didn't want to be the singer
anymore, so the search was on for a new vocalist. I
was totally against this because me and singers never
got along and I thought that Johnny was just fine as
the bands singer, and where could you find someone who
even came close to looking as good as Johnny did! Well,
I was outvoted and the search for a singer was on. The
first guy that came down was dressed in silver leather
pants and silver cowboy boots. He looked ok but not
even close to Johnny in the personalitly dept. He did
a few songs and was given the old don't call us we'll
call you. By this time Syl had become a regular fixture
around the studio. Turns out he and Billy were friends
for years and they had a band with Johnny at one time.
It was starting to become uncomfortable going to practice
and having someone hanging around that you just know
wanted your gig. Jerry used to stop by often and jam
but he never gave of any vibes that he wanted Billys
gig, he would come by and jam and leave. Jerry was an
amazing drummer and even though he could play rings
around Billy he came to play and that was it. Jerry
loved to play and he would jam with anyone. He was always
keeping his chops sharp. As you might have guessed David
was in the band by this time and things were changing.
The band wasn't fun anymore. You have one guy who is
after your gig and another who thinks we are his backup
band. Time to go go. Me and Arthur were still as tight
as ever but the band thing just wasn't working for me
anymore. We did a Christmas show at a Welfare hotel
that was a blast, but the New Year was coming and so
was a new band.
Which is your happiest memory
with New York Dolls? And the worst one?
I think my best memories playing with Johnny and Billy
were the times hanging out at Johnnys apartment and
learning new material on acoustics. That showed me that
if you have good melody and lyrics you can build up
the song with other instruments but if the song is bad
to begin with nothing can save it. Johnny was really
underrated as a player and a writer but I saw how works
and the guy was no idiot. His discography is just awesome.
A lot of people think of him with the Heartbreakers
doing the same songs but if you get all his material
you can see the wide range of influences he put into
his music. Years from know he will be discovered and
hailed for the genius he was. Probably the worst memory
of being in the band is one night when we all went out
after practice and Billy was realy drunk. Billy was
cool but when he got really messed up he could be really
obnoxious. We were all at a club and I was trying to
make this girl and Billy kept coming over to our table
and grabbing food off of our plates until it got really
stupid. I don't know what he was on but he just wouldn't
get lost. It got to the point that when he tried to
grab some food of this girls plate that I had enough
and stabbed him in the hand with my fork. He kinda just
looked at me like he couldn't believe it but I just
told him to piss off. When we were done and ready to
leave we went to get in my car and the air was let out
of 2 tires. That was fun trying to find a gas station
open at 4 A.M.
What has been the feedback to
the release of "Dawn Of The Dolls" album?
Why did you decide to publish this recordings?
The "Dawn Of The Dolls" CD was in the works
since 1975. We had been planing to release it during
the time when bootleg records were really popular and
before the government cracked down on bootleggers. Just
happened that every time we planed to release it something
else came along and we used our capital to fund other
projects. We had been talking with other independent
labels from time to time but we could never seem to
get anything on paper. Labels were interested but then
they would either fold or sign a new group and have
to put it off. We were gonna co-release it with Twink
on his label but when we saw the contract he had given
us we jsut said to hell with it let's just put ti out
on our own. The tape was so widely circulated that it
was just a metter of time before some other label would
bootleg it as they had done before with the "Heartbreakers
Live At Mothers" record. A.C.Doback had recorded
those tapes years before and had given a copy to Johnny
when one of the people that worked for him stole it
and sold it to BOMP Records. Same thing happened to
the "Dawn" cd. After we had released it Twink
had gotten together with Arthur and re-released it as
the "Actress" Cd with the notes taken from
Arthurs book "iDoll". Some of these people
in this business can stoop so low. After all the things
that A.C. Doback did for Twink he repays him like this
by ripping him and me off. When we were in Los Angeles
me Arthur and Twink were supposed to get together and
record some tunes for possible release. We had spent
2 days trying to find a recording studio that had drums
and when we found one had book it for the next day.
We figured this would be a cool project with 2 Ex-Dolls/Corpse
Grinders and a PinkFairy/Pretty Thing on it. Turns out
that when we called Twink the next day to tell him we
were on our way to get him he pulls out with some half-assed
excuse about some girl he met.
How did Rock'n'Roll step into
your life? Who were the artists that you considered
your main source of inspiration at the beginning of
your career?
Music stepped into my life at an early age. I started
playing the drums when I was 10 years old. A friend
of mine had some drums and I would go over to his house
and he would teach me the basics. The only problem was
that he was lefthanded and that is the way I learned
to play. I was the school drummer and would play as
the students marched into the assembly hall. After a
few years I got a teacher but when I went for my first
lesson he told me that I was holding my sticks the wrong
way and had me start playing the way a righthanded drummer
would play. I got tired quickley as I had been playing
one way for years and now I was supposed to learn all
over again the "right" way. My father always
had an acoustic guitar aroung the house and when the
Beach Boys hit big I had started trying to play with
a book that someone had given me. Around the same thim
I started playing the trumpet in the school band. I
saw this Frank Sinatra movie "The Man With The
Golden Arm" about a junkie jazz trumpet player
and I thought that's for me. I don't know what intrigued
me more the musician part or the junkie part but my
trumpet playing days had begun. Playing in the school
band had its perks so I jumped in head first and became
quite the player. Herb Alpert was big at the time and
I would learn his songs and play them in a sort of jazz
combo I had started up with some of my friends from
school. When the Beatles hit it was all over. I was
still playing trumpet in school but I had made friends
with a clarinet player who was also interested in the
guitar and soon we had a rock band together. That clarinet
player turned out to be Arthur Kane and soon our school
band was history and rock had taken over our souls.
We used to practice every day after school at Arthurs
house and soon we had enough songs to play the local
church scene that turned into the NY club scene. We
played all the name clubs like the Cafe Wha and Bitter
End but the best gigs were at the strip clubs like The
Metropole near 48th street. The Metropole used to be
a jazz club where the Stones and Animals would go to
see jazz band at night but with the disco craze it turned
into a sleazy strip bar with overpriced drinks and semi-nude
dancers shaking to local bands. The clubs were all mob
run and something was always happening but we minded
our business and were always treated well except if
we got too friendly with some of the dancers. We were
obsessed with music and all the bands that were coming
over from England. We hung out with the Yardbirds when
the came over for the first time and would often see
Hendrix at the Scene. The Spoonful and Blues Magoos
were always hanging out in the village and that is where
we would go. We needed a drummer and that is where Stu
Wylder comes in. He went to the same school as we did
but was a year younger than us but he was friends with
Ken Finger (a.k.a Fang) our bass player so when we were
looking for a new drummer in steps Wylder. Not only
did he play drums but he also was our singer. After
awhile we realised that having a drummer for a lead
singer might have worked for the Monkees but not for
us. So Stu was moved from behind the drums to the position
of front man. We played together until me and Arthur
graduated from high school and into college. On the
first day of registration I noticed a strawberry blonde
that looked very much like Brian Jones walking around
the room until he came over to where I was sitting and
asked if the seat was taken. This was my first meeting
with Sparky Donovan and the beginning of a lifetime
friendship that continues to this day. Shortly after
meeting Sparky me and Arthur were making weekly trips
to his house to play with a bandmate of his named Keith.
Keith was a Rolling Stones fanatic and soon we were
obsessed with all things Stoned. Sparky was the one
who turned our heads Rolling and one of the main reasons
why we asked Johnny to join our band.
What did you think about the
recent New York Dolls reunion with 3 old members and
the guesting of Gary Powell (ex Libertines) who appeared
at London Meltdown Festival? Did they tell you about
this idea or you were unaware of everything? Would you
have liked to participate?
Not much when they could have had 4 old members and
if you include Sparky on drums then you would have had
4 old and 1 almost as Sparky was supossed to be the
original drummer. Arthur had called me when he had first
heard of talk of a Dolls reunion and was excited and
worried at the same time. What if they do it without
me he would say. The Dolls were Arthur's life and for
the last 25 years he was obsessed with getting the band
back together. When talk of a reunion circulated he
didn't know if it was for real or another way of getting
his hopes up only to bring him down. When Arthur mentioned
that he would love me to be involved I told him to just
get himself in because there is no way that Syl and
David would want me involved in any way. I told Arthur
that we didn't get along then and we wouldn't get along
now so just do your thing and watch you back cause David
isn't doing this reunion for anybody but himsef. The
cruel irony is that Arthur passed away after the first
shows and it is David and Syl going around as the Dolls
just like they did when Johnny and Jerry left all those
years ago. "The Phony Dolls" as they were
called. Arthur didn't stand a chance because it was
Johnny and Jerry and David and Syl so he had no allies
in the band. I'm really surprised that he took all their
shit cause he was more than capable of knocking anyone
of em out with one shot.
About a month later Arthur Kane
passed away and recently you played a tribute gig with
Paul Blaccard, Stu Boy Wylder, Kenny Cruz as the Corpse
Grinders in October 8th, 2004 at The Continental in
New York City. Can you describe Arthur Kane both as
man and artist, your best memories related to the times
that you passed with Mr.Kane together and the atmosphere
of The Continental during the mentioned gig?
The Tribute was a blast but the only thing that sucked
is that Arthur wasn't there. All of the bands gave their
time and energy for a dear friend. Lynn Todd came all
the way up from Georgia or someplace down south, Sonny
Vincent came from Germany, The Victims reunited, Jack
Butler Band was the first band to offer themselves.
It was great with people that haven't seen eachother
for years getting together to pay tribute to an old
friend. There was so much love in the club that night
and Trigger was really great for giving us his club
for the night so we could pull this off. Stuboy worked
his ass off putting the whole thing together by himself.
Arthur will be missed by all. We were best friends from
high school on and we did everything together. He was
a very gentile person who showed no hatred for anyone
regardless of color or nationally. Everyone was equal
in his eyes. He was taken advantage by a everyone because
they thought he was stupid or weak. He happened to be
a very smart person who could be a little quirky at
times but it was his genius that not many people understood
and therefore thought they could put anything over on
him. We had many good times together and he turned me
on to things that I never would have known about if
not for him. The time we spent in Amsterdam was probably
the best time that I ever spent with anyone. We had
a blast. We lived like kings in a great part of the
city, we had a car and 2 motorcycles and we would take
trips to the beach on the bikes and just stop in little
towns on the way and hang out with the locals. The times
we had playing the strip clubs when we were 16 and hanging
out with older women and just having the time of our
life. He is greatly missed by myself as we had plans
to play together after the New York Dolls reunion. It's
all history now.
Mr.Rivets have you been influenced
by the homonymous trash horror movie signed by Ted V.Mikels
during the 1972 in choosing Corpse Grinders as the name
of your band? If it's so, why have you been so much
impressed by this movie? What are your favourite scenes?
To tell ya the truth I thought that the movie "The
Corpse Grinders" was the worst piece of garbage.
When Ted Mikels was making "The Corpse Grinders
2", Paul Blaccard was in touch with him to try
to work some of the bands songs into the movie but the
guy seems like a real idiot. He dosen't know how to
make a good horror movie. A monkey could make a better
movie then him. I mean what a boring film. The only
reason we used the name was because Arthur came up with
it and it was his call. I didn't even know it was a
movie as we could have came up with a better name for
the band. If your gonna make a movie named Corpse Grinders
then you had better well have alot of blood and gore
and people getting ripped apart and something like "The
Texas Chainsaw Massacre" or "The Night Of
The Living Dead". I saw the movie a few times and
I don't even remember one scene.
I read that Malcom McLaren declared:
"I was trying to do with the Sex Pistols what I
had failed with the New York Dolls". What do you
think about the turning point Sex Pistols signed in
punk history?
The Sex Pistols sucked. They were all hype. What did
they have like one record? If Malcom could have used
The Dolls like he did The Pistols he might have had
something but with their personalities he couldn't have
done jack shit because at that point the drugs took
Johnny and Jerry and without those two there is no band.
Johnny was the Dolls period. Without him you have nothing.
There were so many better bands then the Pistols. The
Clash, The Ramones, Heartbreakers, Damned,when should
I stop. John Lydon is a joke. I don't know why anyone
would put up with his crap. He needs a good bitch slapping.
Syd was a kid who fell for his own hype and tried to
play with the big boys and couldn't keep up so bye bye.
Jones and Cook made a good team and played well together
but Matlock seems to be the real talent in that band.
Hype all hype. It's just too bad that they will forever
be tied in with the start of punk but for all the press
they had the released the least amount of material and
any Ramones cd is better then their one cd. Well that
about raps it up. I wanna thank all the people that
have supported us through the years and I hope we can
make it over this year.
Can you tell us some more about
Martians From Uranus "Addictions" CD? When,
how and where did you meet drummer Jim Robinson, relative
of Black Crowes Rich and Chris? Also, can tell us something
more about Walter Lure contribution to the stuff? I
read that sometimes Walter Lure appears on stage to
jam something together with you. Do you still keep on
hanging with some other fellows from the New York scene?
Martians From Uranus was a band from Cincinnati (Ohio),
that came to New York to record a demo that was being
produced by a friend of mine. Since the singer was a
New York Dolls fan, they asked me if I could play on
their tape. I always love to play on other bands tapes
so of course I said yes. After we were done taping they
asked if I would want to play with them that night as
they had a gig somewhere out on Long Island. Well I
turned up and played a few numbers and soon they asked
me to join the band. Having nothing going on then I
figured at least I can keep my chops up. I thought that
they were all gonna be these cool people that liked
to play all the time but as time went by their personalities
started coming through and I realized that except for
the singer the rest of the band was nothing. The guitar
player played this cheap piece of crap Korean Telecaster
and the drummer could never use his truck cause his
wife wouldn't let him. We would get these gigs in New
York, but the singer married a women he met at a show
and soon we had our own Yoko (Ono). I'm not into bands
where one guy always has to bring his wife or girl everywhere
and that is what was happening. The rest of the guys
had no image what so ever and the guitarist wouldn't
take off his baseball hat for nothing and you know what
that means. Any time someone always wears a hat 24/7
means they are bald or losing alot of hair. So instead
of shaving his head or whatever the hat was always there
and so were the same clothes every show. I've been playing
in bands for years and we always tried to dress but
these guys didn't seem to have the concept of an image.
Later on when they got rid of the drummer and guitarist
they brought in the managers nephews on guitars and
one of their friends on drums. Well now the band was
all related to the singers wife and they wouldn't take
any suggestions from me so I knew this was time for
me to go. After I had left I had gotten a letter from
a Canadian record label who had heard the CD and wanted
to put us on a 3 week tour but since I wasn't playing
with them to hell with it. Besides I'm not gonna go
on tour with a bunch of kids who don't know the first
thing about how to act like a band and how to draw press.
As far as the Robinson's go there are so many of them
that if we played a big arena they could have filled
it up so what Rich and Chris are to them could be 25
cousins twice removed or whatever!
We're a little bit curious, once
we had the chance to interview by mail Handsome Dick
Manitoba and Andy Shernoff of Dictators fame. I know
that Handsome opened a club called Manitoba in Ney York
City. I'm wondering if it has ever happened to you to
visit this place. If so what do you think about it?
Are you an Handsome's friend?
I remember Handsome Dick from the Dictators back in
the 70's but I was never friendly with the band. After
all, The Brats were one of the most hated bands on the
New York scene. It was all because the singer had this
ego and would turn the other bands off with his big
mouth. He was the one who told Paul Stanley that they
were nothing and he was the star when I told Ace they
could headline over us when we played at the Diplomat
Hotel. My thinking was that they were a better band
and as soon as they were over the place would empty
but the singer had such an ego that he actually called
Paul up and started screaming that they had better change
the ad or else we weren't playing. Real stupid move
because I was the one who told Ace to go ahead and put
themselves on top because that is where they belonged
as they were the better band and besides we headlined
over them them last time. Paul must have been really
pissed and I don't blame him but look who got the last
laugh. Anyway as far as Manitoba's club I was never
there all though I heard it was a good place and I bought
The Dictators LP and saw them live and thought they
were very good but as far as hanging out it never happened
for whatever reason. Nothing personal.
Ok, what do you think about the
seventies English glam scene? And what about what was
happening in New York City ? We read that Kiss opened
for the Brats, would you have bet on their future huge
success on that date? Anyway which memories do you keep
of these young rockstars?
We used to get all the magazines with the British glam
bands and try to copy their dress except for the make-up.
I loved David Bowie, T-Rex and The Sweet and the whole
lot, Slade etc, but they influenced our music more then
out dress. I was more into what the Rolling Stones were
wearing then what the glam bands were wearing. If you
are a midget like Syl or Johnny, you can get away trying
to look like a girlie man, but I was too tall and masculine
to pull that crap off. It's hard to kick someone's ass
wearing platforms, and when we were going uptown to
cop we had to be able to make a fast getaway and sneakers
were our first choice. When I was in the New York Dolls
I never dressed like that, but I would wear velvet suits
and snakeskin boots sans platform. I loved the way Keith
Richards dressed back then. The Brats were a glam band
to an extent but we never wore make-up and all our clothes
were made for us and were closer to the kind of clothes
the country singers would wear with all the rhinestones
and such. Kiss wasn't a glam band per say, they had
their own thing going and they marched to their own
drummer. They didn't follow but they led as far as fashion.
Even off stage Paul and Ace looked like rock stars with
velvet pants and nice leather jackets. I if Paul never
put on any make-up he would still look like a star.
Same with Gene, it's more then the clothes it's the
attitude. Kiss did something that nobody did before
and that is why they are so successful.
Is true that the name The Brats
was suggested by Alice Cooper? At that time how much
the young Mr. Rivets was into the glam rock scene? Was
that all something more than simple glitter lipsticks
and nail polish?
We were sitting at the back table at Max's one night
with Alice Cooper who had become a fixture at that time
and we told him we were looking for a great name for
a new band. Well he thought for a minute and said: "The
Brats! You all look like a bunch of brats!" so
from then on we were the Brats. Alice was a huge influence
on me and Arthur and Johnny and me and Arthur saw them
when the lp with Eighteen came out and were floored
with the show. Johnny was a bit closer as he went out
with Cindy Lange who was Alice's girl when they were
on tour. So one afternoon we were at Johnny's and Alice
calls up yelling about him seeing Cindy. All this while
we are just sitting there, listening to our hero fighting
for his woman. The Brats singer took her out a few times
but nothing ever happened, except him buying her dinner.
But to think our hero's girl would cheat on him was
unheard off but I guess this is the way of the world.
Do you think that The Brats have
been underrated? If you think so what should have gone
in a different way?
I don't know if the Brats were underrated, although
we did have one of the best guitarists in New York.
He was sooooo good that if you closed your eyes you
would swear that Jeff Beck was playing. Only trouble
was the singer was so stubborn that you couldn't get
anything done. I don't know how many times we turned
down deals because of him. Thinking back the one thing
we should have done and we all regret is not getting
another singer. That's the biggest mistake we made in
keeping him, because he was the one who caused the band
to fail. Even when Rave Up released the Brats LP's he
was pissed because he didn't think they should have
been released. Well, we have a surprise waiting for
him, because we will release anything we want on the
Brats and if he doesn't like it let him sue. Me and
Sparky started the band and he ruined the band so from
now on we can recoup some of the money and time we wasted
playing with him, I swear we will!
Rave Up, an Italian indie recording
label published stuff of The Brats and Corpse Grinders,
which are now sold out. What about it?
I thank Rave Up every day for putting those LP's out,
although we have better tapes. At least the world can
get to hear some of the music that was big at one time
in New York City so long ago. The Corpse Grinders I'm
not too happy about, because we have much better material
in the can that should have been released. Some day
it will all be released and then people can judge for
themselves if the music was good or bad. Rave Up did
a good job in getting this out, but we have a lot more
if they are interested, so if they are reading this,
get in touch and we will send you samples of all the
studio tapes we have.
Can you tell us something about
your experience with The Slugs?
Out of all my fave bands the Slugs have to be number
one. Not only did we have a singer who wrote beautiful
lyrics but was just as beautiful to look at. He was
the ultimate frontman, a cross between Jim Morrison
and Al Pacino. The shame is that the Slugs never went
anywhere because the drugs always got in the way. So
many deals were lost because of the behavior of certain
members. Another thing is they were afraid to go on
the road. The trouble was that no one person was the
leader and without a leader things just fell apart.
In which of all of these bands
we've talked about you feel much involved? Why?
The band that I was most involved was the Corpse Grinders
and now The Rick Rivets Band because now it is me that
calls the shots. Kennie, the bassist, is an enormous
help in getting things done but that is because we are
on the same level. We can hire and fire members and
won't hesitate if they don't want to go in the direction
we have planned. I've been doing this too long to let
other people ruin my chances of getting somewhere. It's
our way or adios. This isn't a game or a hobby, if a
player wants to do it as a hobby then they have the
wrong band. And no drugs. I don't care what someone
does as far as drugs, but don't screw up this band because
of your habit. Also I'm mot gonna get busted because
someone has to smoke a joint going through Mississippi.
Hell with that, no pot in this band. Pot is for idiots,
heroin is ok, but no pot or speed. Rebel Yell is the
official drink of the Rivets Band and China White but
no black tar of Jack.
What do you think about all these
young dudes (as for example our Le$ter here posing questions
with us) still stuck with this kind of proto punk, early
glam that you contributed so much to create? In your
opinion what lacks in the modern rock scene?
I think the thing that lacks in modern music is bands
that look like bands. Fred Durst does not look like
someone who is in a band. Much to many ugly musicians
going around trying to act like rock stars and it just
doesn't quite make it when you are use to stars like
the Stones and Led Zeppelin and The Coop and Aerosmith
who not only look like start but act like them. The
bands have no image, I mean wearing board shorts on
stage what is that supposed to be. If I'm seeing a show
I want to see a guy up there who look great and not
like someone from the audience. Bands don't know how
to be cool and take advantage of the groupies that throw
themselves at them. The one band that stands out because
of their clothes is the Hives but when you look at their
faces you got a bunch of plug uglies. Limp Biscuit I
could never understand with the guitar player who looked
like a monkey with the stupid outfits. Tell me what
that is supposed to mean. Modern rock has to much sampling
and pretty soon there is not gonna be any rock but just
rap.
Do you have any kind of regret?
Viceversa, do you have some dream still to realize?
Regrets I have a few but that is all my fault. I wish
I would have gone on to get my masters and PHD and worked
as a teacher or something like that. I also wish I would
have stayed in the Army and made it a career or become
a cop so I could be on the streets pushing people around.
I regret wasting so much time in the Brats instead of
sacking the singer and moving on. We all have regrets.
I wish I would have stayed in baseball and maybe become
a cop or a Nascar driver. The only dreams I have are
to play Liverpool and do a tour of Europe and then buying
a cabin in the woods and living the kind of life that
they lived in the 1870. Being able to walk around with
a Colt 45 in a good old western holster and being away
from people. I can't stand all the crap that is moving
into New York now. Nobody talks English anymore and
it gets me mad that in my own Country we let all this
garbage in but if someone from France or Italy or England
wants to get in, they have to wait for years while the
third world Countries are all welcome in. I'm sure that
a lot of countries in Europe are having the same problems.
Your favourite top albums of
ever, your favourite drink and your favourite pornstar?
Well as far as favorite drinks there are drinks and
then there are DRINKS. I guess my favorite drinks are
Propel a kind of sports drink with no calories and good
old Cole Cola. As far as my DRINKS I will only drink
Rebel Yell a very smooth sipping whiskey sort of like
Jack Daniels but better. Also Vodka with Seven-Up. Can't
go wrong with that. In pubs a Black and Tan will do
or a hard cider. My favourite LP are anything Beatles
or Stones. Most of the Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin CD
and all things Iggy Pop, Ramones and Thunders. Also
The Chesterfield Kings are a great band that should
be huge by now. See if they had me on second guitar
then they would be tremendous. Status Quo and Rockpile
are two bands who always bring a smile to my face and
don't forget Johnny Cash. As for porn stars Marilyn
Chambers still looks as great as she did 20 years ago,
and Barbara Dare still floats my boat. Also any of these
young Russian girls that you see on line
Thanks Mr.Rivets, could you make
us some anticipations about your future plans in music
field? Now you have the chance to greet Italian fans
and to say whatever you like:
Well we are hoping that we will play the IPO this spring
in Liverpool and we are working on something that will
take us to Iraq to entertain the troops in about 7 -
9 months. I would also like to get a new CD recorded
and release alot of material I have in the can. I would
also love to tour Italy as from what I have seen your
country is one of the most beautiful in the world and
to see the sites would just be great. Also to be able
to meet any fans of ours and to just hang out with the
people from whatever city we go to. I would also like
to meet musicians from Italy and possibly jam and record.
We really hope to see you on stage somewhere in the
world, I want you only to know that one day we'll will
tell our nephews we interviewed Mr.Rivets. Thanks for
your patience and your time!
Thanks for your time and I hope that we will be able
to visit soon. Keep rockin'!
Questions by Le$ter (www.landslideladies.com) e Bruno
Rossi.
Translated by Margherita Realmonte.
Photos by Susan Brie e Donna Gaines, scroll on the pics
for more details.
|